Best Layout for VIM

creese · 25-Jun-2012 19:52:49

Long time Colemak user, getting into VIM. I need to remap some keys so I can do "hkjl" navigation. Also thinking about trying a WASD-y approach with 'u' for "up" and leaving 'h' as a dead key (colemak.vim). I need to find better places for 'n' (next), 'e' (end word), 'i' (insert), and maybe, 'u' (undo). I may also need to relocate uppercase counterparts. Ideas?

pinkyache · 25-Jun-2012 21:59:19

Hi, search the forum it's a popular question :)

DreymaR · 26-Jun-2012 08:03:58

My preferred way nowadays is adding an Extend mapping layer as an omnimode, omniapp way of navigating etc, then leaving Vim be. You always meet fresh Vim on other machines and then it's no fun if you've messed up yours. Besides, you can't swing a dead nnoremap in there without crashing some other mapping that you'll end up missing in the end.

creese · 26-Jun-2012 19:48:46

That looks really useful! Can you post your config file in pastebin?

DreymaR · 28-Jun-2012 16:42:01

Yes, well, um. I map the Extend layer with PKL on Windows and XKB on Linux. It's been a while since I updated my files. Next week when I'm back from vacation I'll try to get something fresh up. What's your platform of choice?

creese · 28-Jun-2012 21:28:44

Arch Linux

DreymaR · 05-Jul-2012 00:04:43

Right, um. Could you maybe upload a fresh /usr/share/X11/xkb directory from your distro? So I can compare it with mine from Ubuntu 12.04. Unless you happen to know that they use the same X.Org version, that is...

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creese · 08-Jul-2012 05:42:52

Where?

DreymaR · 08-Jul-2012 11:09:43

Okay, note how I just posted my Magnum Opus topic including Linux/XKB files? :)

If Arch Linux uses the same X.Org version as Ubuntu 12.04 and has the same X.Org file structure (I think it does) then you could use my patch directly on a fresh XKB folder. If not, then note that in the same directory as the patch I also put my modified files. Try comparing those to yours - if the only changes are mine then you're good to go.

DreymaR · 15-Jul-2012 11:48:03

How does what work, Vernon? Sorry, I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. (If you're asking about my topic, ask there.)

spremino · 16-Jul-2012 14:24:07

A WASD approach is good for games, where you are likely to move towards all directions with more or less the same frequency, whereas while editing you are likely to use up and down much more than other directions (check the "Interesting Highlights" section):

http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/command-frequency.html

Therefore hjkl works better than it looks.

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DreymaR · 16-Jul-2012 14:33:04

Well, that'll depend a bit on what you're doing and your style I think. Holding down the down arrow for instance, could count as many or as one 'command' - or you could use a number before it if you're terribly clever. Also, I tend to use the left arrow a fair bit (often with Ctrl to skip words) to get back to something I need to change, and then skip to the end of the line with End afterwards.

All in all, that works well for me then. The most used keys are on the strongest fingers. I don't think it matters much on total strain though. And then, the WARS-type concept (WASD is for QWEsses...) has at least the advantage of a very intuitive setup. That again won't matter to the seasoned veterans...

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