Is it possible to swap the 'Alt' key with the 'AltGr' key using the portable keybord layouts file?
The reason for this is because on my new keyboard it is very uncomfortable to press the 'AltGr' key with my thumb
as it is further down.
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Is it possible to swap the 'Alt' key with the 'AltGr' key?
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Yes, there should be a way. You'll need the Scan Codes for the keys you want to map, and the VirtualKey names that you wish to map them to. Haven't tried it for the alt keys and it's conceivable that something might be problematic but give it a try.
Here's how to turn the ScrollLock key (SC 046) into a Win key, as an example:
SC046 = LWIN modifier
(This line goes into the [layout] section of your layout.ini file in the layout's directory.)
If I'm not mistaken, the left and right Alt keys have SC038 and SC138 respectively. The Alt key name is just ALT I think, possibly LALT, and the right Alt key may be named RALT (but maybe it's something else when it's an AltGr - not sure).
Another good tip is to use a Wide layout like I do. That way your right-hand home position is one key to the right so your thumb has a much easier job of hitting the AltGr key. Now that I'm used to it I wonder why it wasn't always like that. :)
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I have tried everything and I cannot get this to work. I have tried SC038 = RALT, SC038 = ALTGR. But
none of this seems to work.
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Did you try out the ScrollLock line first? Did you manage to map the Alt key to something else?
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Yes. I have tried remapping SC038 = A but nothing happens. I have tried turning the SC046 = LWIN which turns the 'Scroll Lock' key into
the left win key but nothing happens.
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Well, if the SC046 line doesn't work for you then it's not the Alt keys but your PKL skills that are lacking I suppose. Please post the layout file you use in code tags here if you want to, and I'll see if I can hack it for you.
Btw, I think AutoHotkey recommends using ^!{RAlt} for the AltGr mapping? Better check it out...
Last edited by DreymaR (07-Jun-2012 14:59:28)
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; Keyboard Layout definition for
; Portable Keyboard Layout
; http://pkl.sourceforge.net
;
[informations]
layoutname = Colemak UK
layoutcode = Colemak
localeid = 00000809
copyright = (c) 2008 Dan Jacobs
company = Dan Jacobs
homepage = http://pkl.sourceforge.net/
version = 1.0
generated_at = Wed Aug 27 07:08:44 2008
generated_from = ColemakUK.klc
modified_after_generate = no
[global]
; extend_key = CapsLock
shiftstates = 0:1:2:6:7
img_width = 296
img_height = 102
[fingers]
row1 = 1123445567888
row2 = 1123445567888
row3 = 1123445567888
row4 = 11234455678
[layout]
;scan = VK CapStat 0Norm 1Sh 2Ctrl 6AGr 7AGrSh Caps CapsSh
SC002 = 1 0 1 ! -- -- -- ; QWERTY 1!
SC003 = 2 0 2 @ -- -- -- ; QWERTY 2@
SC004 = 3 0 3 £ -- -- -- ; QWERTY 3#
SC005 = 4 0 4 $ -- € -- ; QWERTY 4$
SC006 = 5 0 5 % -- -- -- ; QWERTY 5%
SC007 = 6 0 6 ^ -- -- -- ; QWERTY 6^
SC008 = 7 0 7 & -- -- -- ; QWERTY 7&
SC009 = 8 0 8 * -- -- -- ; QWERTY 8*
SC00a = 9 0 9 ( -- -- -- ; QWERTY 9(
SC00b = 0 0 0 ) -- -- -- ; QWERTY 0)
SC00c = OEM_MINUS 0 - _ -- -- -- ; QWERTY -_
SC00d = OEM_PLUS 0 = + -- -- -- ; QWERTY =+
SC010 = Q 1 q Q -- -- -- ; QWERTY qQ
SC011 = W 1 w W -- -- -- ; QWERTY wW
SC012 = F 1 f F -- -- -- ; QWERTY eE
SC013 = P 1 p P -- -- -- ; QWERTY rR
SC014 = G 1 g G -- -- -- ; QWERTY tT
SC015 = J 1 j J -- -- -- ; QWERTY yY
SC016 = L 1 l L -- -- -- ; QWERTY uU
SC017 = U 5 u U -- ú Ú ; QWERTY iI
SC018 = Y 1 y Y -- -- -- ; QWERTY oO
SC019 = OEM_1 0 ; : -- -- -- ; QWERTY pP
SC01a = OEM_4 0 [ { { -- -- ; QWERTY [{
SC01b = OEM_6 0 ] } -- -- ; QWERTY ]}
SC01e = A 5 a A -- 1 ! -- --; QWERTY aA
SC01f = R 5 r R -- 2 @ @ ; QWERTY sS
SC020 = S 1 s S -- 3 £ £; QWERTY dD
SC021 = T 1 t T -- 4 $ $ QWERTY fF
SC022 = D 1 d D -- 5 % ; QWERTY gG
SC023 = H 1 h H -- 6 ^ ; QWERTY hH
SC024 = N 1 n N -- 7 & ; QWERTY jJ
SC025 = E 5 e E -- 8 * * ; QWERTY kK
SC026 = I 5 i I -- 9 ( ( ; QWERTY lL
SC027 = O 5 o O ) 0 ) ; QWERTY ;:
SC028 = OEM_3 0 ' " -- -- -- ; QWERTY '"
SC029 = OEM_8 0 ={backspace} ¬ -- ¦ -- ; QWERTY `~
SC02b = OEM_7 0 # ~ -- -- ; QWERTY \|
SC02c = Z 1 z Z -- -- -- ; QWERTY zZ
SC02d = X 1 x X -- -- -- ; QWERTY xX
SC02e = C 1 c C -- -- -- ; QWERTY cC
SC02f = V 1 v V -- -- -- ; QWERTY vV
SC030 = B 1 b B -- -- -- ; QWERTY bB
SC031 = K 1 k K -- -- -- ; QWERTY nN
SC032 = M 1 m M -- -- -- ; QWERTY mM
SC033 = OEM_COMMA 0 , < -- -- -- ; QWERTY ,<
SC034 = OEM_PERIOD 0 . > -- -- -- ; QWERTY .>
SC035 = OEM_2 0 / ? -- -- -- ; QWERTY /?
SC038 = RALT 0 -- -- -- -- -- ;QWERTY ALT
SC039 = SPACE 0 ={Space} ={Space} ={Space} ={Space} -- ; QWERTY Space
SC056 = OEM_5 0 ={enter} | -- -- ; QWERTY OEM_102
SC053 = DECIMAL 0 . . -- -- -- ; QWERTY Decimal in Numpad
CapsLock = OEM_1 0 ={backspace} *{CapsLock} ={backspace} ={backspace} ={backspace} ; Caps Lock
;SC00f = TAB ={printscreen} ={backspace} ={backspace} ={backspace} ={backspace} ; Caps LockBy the way, I am running Windows 7 which is 64 bit. Cheers!
Last edited by Jag02 (07-Jun-2012 15:38:16)
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Don't know, that file is a shambles. Different numbers of states, missing semicolons before comments etc. You sure it worked well before you added the SC038 line?
Anyway, I've tested this on a Win7 computer and it works fine for me:
SC038 = RALT modifier ; Left Alt gives AltGr/RAlt
SC138 = LALT modifier ; RAlt/AltGr gives LAltI'd still advise against this. You'll be confused to no end on other keyboards is my prediction. Even though I have a mod which puts a bunch of keys into the middle I feel that this is a more confusing change. Let us know how it works for you, eh? :)
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